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Poll: Are Fans Fed Up with Patrick Kaleta?


Judging by the interwebs this morning, it seems that most hockey fans have had enough of Patrick Kaleta and all his antics. Once again during the Buffalo Sabres first pre-season game, Kaleta was up to his usual antics and didn’t make too many friends after he

jumped Canadiens youngster Alex Galchenyuk and started a massive scrum.

It’s no secret that Patrick Kaleta is one of the most disliked players in the NHL for the things he does on the ice during the game and between whistles. Whether it’s running a guy into the boards, hitting him after the whistle, sucker-punching an unprotected player or shying away from a real tussle with another NHL tough guy, there is always something happening with Kaleta. It’s rare for the Sabres to play a game and not have an incident with Kaleta and that’s not good for a young Sabres team.

Yes, the rookies are going to need some tougher veterans to protect them this season, but Kaleta is not the right guy. Last night was a pre-season game, a meaningless pre-season game for some players and Kaleta was running all over the ice trying to injure players. You have to love Kaleta’s effort/dedication to his team but, he just doesn’t play smart hockey, and that costs the Sabres more than it helps. When Kaleta is on the ice, you’re not going to have many calls go his way, and more times than not he’ll be the one sitting in the penalty box while the Sabres will be forced to kill off another stupid penalty. He’s the type of player who wears his emotions on his sleeve, except he needs to learn to reign in those emotions so they don’t hurt his team.

Perhaps the most frustrating thing about Kaleta’s game is his unwillingness to actually drop the mitts and fight. You want to be a tough guy in the NHL? Fine, drop the mitts with other tough guys. Don’t jump other teams star players or young rookies. One can’t play the way Kaleta plays and not drop the mitts at the odd time to back it up, you just can’t.

So my question to you. We know the rest of the NHL is fed up with Patrick Kaleta, but are Sabres Fans beginning to get fed up with Patrick Kaleta as well? Do the Buffalo Sabres really need him/ have room for him on the roster?

Are You Fed Up with Patrick Kaleta?

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  • Jes

    No way. I honestly do not like the guy at all but he draws penalties from other teams. And I honestly love being a team others hate playing. With Ott, Scott and Kaleta in our lineup we probably do rank up there as one of the NHL most hated teams.

    • Caitlin Campbell

      Ott and Kaleta I don’t mind… Scott is pretty much a write-off talent wise. Being the most hated team is one thing, but if that team can’t produce we’ll just be the laughingstock

      • Jes

        LOL, wow. Scott is here for two things and two things only. That’s to protect our stars and intimidate opposing teams. And he does that to a T. If you think he’s here to get points and so on then you should study up on the players and there roles. He’s here to be an enforcer nothing else.

        Having Kaleta and Scott on this team won’t make us a laughing stock. I do not even know why you said that? We’re not going to score 5-6 goals a game. Scott produces every time he steps out onto the ice, because he intimidating the opposition. An assist or goal from him would just be a plus.

        • Caitlin Campbell

          I know exactly what Scott’s role is on the Sabres, I just don’t think the Sabres need to waste a roster spot with him when they already have Kaleta and Orr and even McCormick. Who can play the tough guy role and put up the points.

          You don’t think the Sabres are a laughingstock with Scott? Go on twitter next game he’s playing and see.
          Players who win the Stanley Cup don’t have a John Scott on their team… they just don’t.

          • Nuthatch

            We got Scott for the reason that Kaleta, Ott & McCormick just weren’t enough. Scott is what keeps teams like Boston & Philadelphia off our backs. He is feared for his ability to beat the crap out of others. He’s needed for the true heavy hitters like Lucic & Chara. Notice how they didn’t mess with us this past season? I attribute that directly to John Scott. I’m happy to have him as a Sabre. :)

          • Caitlin Campbell

            Fair enough you’re entitled to your opinion. I don’t agree with giving 1 player a roster spot to be useful in like 4 games a year for like one shift. I really don’t think too many people are afraid of Soctt TBH, remember when he got dropped last season?

          • Jes

            We were getting humped around like a $2 whore when we didn’t have that 3 headed monster of Ott, Scott and Kaleta. You think McCormick is much of an upgrade over Scott? Maybe but not by much. No one is cared of McCormick. I believe even the stars of teams can drop him. You shouldn’t pay attention to others opinion on Twitter half the people on there don’t even know what “Top Shelf” means. He’ll be effective in all rivalry games. So yah he’ll be effective in more than 4 games lol. He’s not taking up a roster space. I’d rather give a 4th line role to him than someone like Larsson. So ya he’s not wasting anyone’s spot on the roster.

            Kaleta – Toughness. Be a Pest. Occasional points. Leadership. Draws penalties. Occasional fight.

            Ott – Toughness. Be a Pest. Occasional points. Leadership. Draws penalties. Occasional fight.

            Scott – Fights. Protects the players on the team. Intimidation.

            All three are doing exactly what they’ve been signed to do. So I don’t know how you can rag on a player for doing his job to the T. And earning basically every dollar. And on the other hand you upsell Miller like he’s still Mr. Vezina.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            I’m sorry but no one is afraid of the Buffalo Sabres because of Kaleta and Scott, that’s just the facts. Like I said you’re entitled to your opinion and I don’t have to agree. Yes I am a Miller backer and I will support him until he retires.

          • erico

            okay. majority of the time Scott is on the ice for 5 minutes or under in a game. Hes really only dressed for intimidation. he just has to sit on the bench and other teams lay off. all other times i feel we should be sticking a Tropp-Mccormick-Kaleta line in. that way there is still somewhat of a point production.

          • Jes

            How is that a fact? How many people have back down from Scott when he offered to throw them down? Even other teams enforcers declined to go. I don’t know if you watched the games the years before Scott and Ott were here? Remember Miller getting knocked around? Miller was the toughest guy on our team. Even guys like McCormick and Gaustad were shaking in there pants and stood around and did nothing. Scott and Ott actually do something. Kaleta’s job isn’t to really fight is more to get under the skin of the opposing team.
            Our team was getting bullied basically every game. Until we got Scott and Ott here that doesn’t seem to be happening anymore. So no ones going to admit that they are afraid of a player but at the same time it’s been basically no BS towards our team from other teams ever since those two were added. Personally I hate Kaleta, but what he does is what makes them valuable to this team. And I for one would be the first one on the “Bring a Pest back to the Sabres” bandwagon.

          • Rob Dotzler

            KESSEL??? Oh, how I wish this was a newer blog post. I just happened upon it, I’d missed it originally.

          • Dano

            The arms race hit the North East 2 years ago.

            4 games?

            Toronto? Orr, Mcclaren, Franson
            Montreal/French? Parros, Moen, White, Tarnasky
            Boston? Thorts, Lucic, McQuaid.. just about the whole team..
            Ottawa? Neil, Kassian, Sdao, Smith

            4 teams, we play them all at least twice. All of them have pugalists on them, more then 1 at that.. Just 4 games?!?!

            Do I remember Scott getting dropped. Yep. Was by the same guy whom left the ‘ Fridge ‘ laying on the ice needing over a hundred plates to put his face back together.

            Would you rather a skilled player instead of Scott? Do you believe Lucic ( whom ran Miller ) or Colton Orr ( Rene Borque and 2 others in the same instance ) would have ANY hesitations at teeing off on Vanek then laughing while tossing an odd punch or 2 at Hodgson or whomever else was within reach? How about Chris Neil?

            Goons are absolutely LOVED by their team mates.

            You might see them as a wasted roster spot, but I would take the words of those on the ice over that of myself. ;)

          • Joseph Williams

            Here here, well said Nuthatch

          • Dano

            Laughingstock?

            Ask the ‘ Big Bad Bruins ‘ about laughing. Ask Shawn Thorts about his hospital visit and time on IR. He wasnt laughing.

            Were the Bruins laughing? Neither was the rest of the league.

            Caitlin.. over half the fans of the game are purists. We could care less what the twits on twitter think.

            We understand that Hockey is considered a religion in Canada! :D

            We have a value for the game. We see it as more then a ‘ social event ‘.

            I think what Buffalo needs to do is scrape up all those twitter twits, get a bag of pucks, and ship them off to Edmonton for a 7th round pick or ‘ future considerations ‘. :D

  • John

    Really? The minute he leaves this team you will be wanting a player that represents him right away. A guy that is fearless and sacrifices himself game in and out. Injuries may come but it’s because of what he does on the ice. As for the fighting hes been worlds better in dropping the gloves. Lastly why would you want to get rid of a guy that gives 100% every game? The skill might not be there but how many other players can say they put in that effort?

    • Caitlin Campbell

      I love his heart and his effort I just don’t like the way he does things. He needs to learn to drop the mitts and stop cheap-shotting people, if he does that then I’d love to have him

      • John

        What about the penalty killing and drawing penalties? He has been fighting! Why do people still say that? Ill agree earlier in career but recently he drops them.

        • Caitlin Campbell

          But he also takes a ton of penalties and that doesn’t help. Like Rich said, I’d rather someone with skill and effort. I say that because I haven’t seen him fight a legit tough guy. He got challenged in Toronto last season and he skated away and asked Scott to fight for him.

          • John

            Actually if it’s the same game I’m thinking of Scott fought McLaren and Kaleta draw a penalty on Orr and the Sabres scored. Don’t seem bad to me.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            Your entitled to your opinion. I don’t like antics and don’t believe he fights his own battles. We’ll see if he proves me wrong this season.

          • John

            Yea we’ll see but I think you’d have no idea how valuable he is until hes gone.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            yeah that’s possible. I think Ott is a better version of him and a lot more effective.

          • John

            Hard to argue that but Kaleta is four years younger, cheaper and Ott can’t be everyone’s savior. Nothing against the guy but getting sick of it.

      • Jes

        The way he does things is what makes him an attractive player to have on a team. If he were to quit doing that I honestly doubt he’d be a regular in the NHL. To frustrate teams and so on this is why he was resigned and continues to be in the NHL. What your basically saying is for him to abandon his game. Ott plays basically the same game as Kaleta plus more offense. Once Kaleta leaves I guarantee you’d be begging for a player of his type.

        • Caitlin Campbell

          I don’t like players who purposely go out of their way to injure opponents, take stupid penalties and are afriad to fight other player of his callibur. So no, I won’t be begging for him back.

          • Nuthatch

            When. Please give examples from last year where Kaleta was consistently taking stupid penalties, deliberately trying to injure opponents and refusing to meet a legitimate challenge to fight. Please keep in mind it is part of his job to draw penalties, to drive other teams into taking stupid penalties…like getting challenged to fight for no ‘good’ reason. I feel like you are looking at Kaleta from several years ago, not the Kaleta from the last 2 years.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            One of the best ones that comes to mind was the game against the Rangers, when he cross-checked I belive Brad Richards from behind. Heck even Ryan Miller told him that he needed to grow up. Maybe I’m not giving him enough credit for changing his game, I just don’t feel like the Sabres need him.

          • John

            That last sentence is what I’ve been trying to get through

      • Nuthatch

        Was Kaleta falling in to his old habits in Montreal? I admit that I only get the games on the radio…Was he cheap-shotting the Habs? Was he getting penalized for dirty play? Or was he just pissing off the Montreal fans because he was on the ice?

        • Caitlin Campbell

          yes he was, he jumped Galchenyuk and threw several cheap-shots. He was running players all night.

          • qwicwted

            Cat, from what I read – even Galchenyuk said – “I guess it was a pretty big hit and if our team was in that position I think someone would be coming over to protect the guy also,” Evidently Galchenyuk rocked Jamie McBain – who plays D for us now.
            I think over the past 2 years Kaleta has toned it down a bit – he had to because he was being called for everything or anything. He’s improved is offense, but more importantly he has improvd his defense – playing on the penalty kill. His job is to agitate, but as he said – the Sabres are sending a message right now, especially in preseason – that our youngsters will be protected. I don’t think we’ll see another Lucic incident and if we do, I would hope Kaleta is there as I wouldn’t want to see Vanek, Ennis, Hodgson, Leino et al try to stand tall.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            I like the fact they’re sending a message to leave our young players alone, that’s a great tone to set early on. I just hope they don’t go over the top and freak over every little bump.

          • qwicwted

            From what I understand, the hit on McBain was not a “little bump” – It was a hard hit. I think Kaleta has changed his game – yes, he will still get penalties because he does have a reputation and I believe that is why he might instigate a fight but walks away (also throw in the fact that he has broken his hand before). Kaleta does play with emotion and while his hit on Richards was not timely – Richards did quite a bit of a “sales job” on it. Actually Richards needed something to happen for him because he wasn’t getting much playing time.

            I think the bottom line is right now, during preseason, teams are setting the tone. Lots of action, competition and messages being sent.

          • http://SabreNoise.com/ Richard Spalding

            Kaleta has no offense – he scored 1 goal last year, and had no assists. If that’s improvement – gah! :D His -4 is impressive, too. And for as many PKs as he fights off, how many PKs does he create for the team to fight off while he’s in the sin bin? I’m not anyone’s case for taking umbrage to the Galchenyuk hit – that is when it is acceptable to go after a guy. Problem is, Kaleta goes after players when there is no reason to, way too much.

    • http://SabreNoise.com/ Richard Spalding

      Why not get a guy with effort AND skill? They have those. It’s not his injuries I worry about; it’s his reckless play that endangers other players, and gets him suspended, that I could do without.

      • John

        That’s his game. I’m not saying go out and get suspended but I want players to be afraid when they are on the ice and see him. He has been on some of this teams best shutdown lines also. What kinda guy you looking for Marchand?

        • http://SabreNoise.com/ Richard Spalding

          No one in the NHL is afraid of Patrick Kaleta. No one in the NHL is afraid of the Buffalo Sabres, either. Employing a dirty player doesn’t make you feared, just disliked. If you employ Kaleta, you are basically saying, “Go out and get suspended,” because that is what he does. That’s hard-nosed players who don’t try to hurt their opponents.

          • John

            If my memory is correct Ovechkin has the same amount of suspensions. I’m not comparing the two in the way they play but are you talking about getting rid of him if he’s on the team? I don’t think so.

          • http://SabreNoise.com/ Richard Spalding

            I would not weep if Kaleta was released or traded. You don’t need a dirty player to win games – clearly, since the Sabres have not been winning many games with him on the team. The Sabres were one of the most penalized teams in the NHL last year – he is a major contributor to that. They won’t get rid of him, probably, but I cannot say I like having him on the team.

          • Jes

            I wouldn’t get rid of Kaleta just yet because I don’t know if Darcy will screw up resigning Ott to a long term contract. If he is resigned then I’d honestly wouldn’t mind just sending Kaleta to the minors while putting him on waivers. Totally forgot about Tropp so ya there’s no real reason to keep Kaleta around.
            IF YOU ARE READING THIS CAITLIN SORRY FOR BEING AGGRESSIVE WITH MY OPINION!!!

  • chas territo

    For any team he doesn’t play for, yeah his antics are not wanted! BUT, he plays for our Sabres, so yes, he is a good player who does what it takes to screw other players minds! It’s called mind fucking and he is the best at it!!

  • lamarred1118

    I hate the chippy/turtling side that he showed way too often earlier in his career, I just wish he would concentrate on being the guy who can be that PK stalwart, shot blocker and pot an occasional goal, he showed he could do that. He is definitely on the radar of the league and therefore every zebra that has a whistle is more inclined to use it when Kaleta is on the ice, he turned himself into a sometimes turtling version of Matt Cooke and even Pitt had enough of his antics.

  • jimbobv2

    Every team needs a line crosser or two.

    For years fans moaned that the Sabres were too soft. And now they have a homegrown kid that doesn’t play soft and then they complain about that too.

    Kaleta is on a decent contract, he plays a tough game, and he’s a solid PKer. I see no real issues with him at all.

    • Caitlin Campbell

      I like his game for the most part. When he’s hitting hard and killing penalties I have no issues. It’s when he starts to run guys and throws cheap-shots that I don’t want him.

      • jimbobv2

        Kaleta draws far more penalties than he takes, so that stuff only worries me when his reputation causes him to draw suspensions that wouldn’t go to a similar play by a player with a different name.

        Bottom line, the +s with Kaleta far outweigh the -s, to me.

        But, I’m a guy who liked another guy who wore #36 here….

  • chas territo

    Like him or hate him, every team needs at least one player like him. How many years in row were we bullied by other teams and did nothing about it? Remember Lucic’s run at weak ass Ryan Miller? Do you remember nobody except Nathan Gerbe came to his defense? We had the balls-less Gaustad who tucked tail and ran away!! Remember all this? Guess what? There are more incidents of this type in our recent history!! Last years shortened season, did anything like these incidents happen? NO!! This is why players like Kaleta are around. If anybody watched Sunday’s Bills game, there was a play where Aaron Williams hit the Big Mouthed Smith, late and out of bounds. Do you remember that play? All game long Smith was talking shit, pointing his finger and just being disrespectful to our team and the FANS!! Do you remember that? Well, he was penalized 15 yards, oh baby, stupid, dumb and just an idiot, right?? Guess what the result was? The penalty did not hurt the Bills, Panthers did nothing, no score at all.Might have gained a few yards and punted, then, did Smith catch any more passes? 1-2? He was made irrelevant!! That’s right, he was no longer going out and CATCHING PASSES!! So, Caitlin, you may or may not have played team sports, but players like Kaleta or plays like A. Williams are sometimes needed, the only real concern is the damage or how often these things occur. Player’s compete to better their opponent(s)!! That’s how it’s done, player’s take chances or risks, that’s how it’s done. One more point, a chance is what A.Williams did. What Kaleta does at times is a risk.There is a difference between the 2 things. One (risk) is possibly damaging! The other (chance)is a calculated move, meaning it may lead to an opposing player doing a Gaustad, you know turtle his ass off the playing field!! YES, Kaleta is needed! He does need, as he has been doing recently, make better choices when he plays the instigator! But… Keep him, reel him in, show him the waty to do these things, teach him! It’s up to the coaches of every team to do their job as well. That’s my take, it is my Opinion, nothing more.

    • Caitlin Campbell

      Thanks Chas, I have indeed played team sports at some of the higest levels so I do know. That’s fine and I respect your opinion. Mine is that he’s too much of a risk and not worth a roster spot. If I recall Kaleta didn’t stand up for Miller either after the Lucic hit and no teams are afraid to play against the Sabres because he’s in the line-up. Just my opinion.

      • chas territo

        That’s right , he did not stand up that game. However he was young and dumb, now he’s older and somewhat dumb. lol. We both have our own opinions about this, who knows, maybe one of us will change that, maybe not. Still a good article even if my opinion is different than yours. Good debates are not hurtful or disrespectful, they can be done even voiced if we allow differences to be written or spoken. I respect yours always because you respond likewise!

        On another note…How do you like my avatar? Was at the HOF in Canton, OHIO and they had a touch app for designing your own SB ring, this is mine!

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  • erico

    I wouldnt miss kaleta if he was traded. I would like to see more of an offensive fourth line. next year if vanek stays i would love a lineup like this

    Vanek-Hodgson-Foligno
    Ennis-Grigorenko-Leino
    Girgensons-Larsson-Armia
    Tropp-Mccormick-Ott

    *Scott

    • http://SabreNoise.com/ Richard Spalding

      Foligno seems to be a popular first-line option. Interesting! I also would not miss Kaleta, but I doubt he’s going anywhere.

      • Jes

        Sort of like the Jochen Hecht situation I think. He must be pretty tight with ownership and or management. Plus he is somewhat of a local guy right?

    • Tim Bayer

      I gather you don’t see Miller sticking around much longer?

      • erico

        As much as I love the guy, i believe he needs a change of scenery + he wants to be closer to his wife.

  • davidmuscalo

    With a young team you need a Kaleta, Ott and Scott on the ice, because it gives the other teams a lot to worry about. That is good for the Sabres. It is especially good for the Sabres when they play bully teams like the Bruins. Last year the Bruins played much differently against the Sabres than the did during the previous soft years.

    As for the other team’s opinion of these players, who cares, they can eat their hearts out.

    Also, I think Kaleta has, to a certain extent, been persecuted by the officials and Shanahan. Shanahan is the one who let Lucic get away with a blatant check on Miller that was intended to injure him and did injure him. The same clown slammed Kaleta for much less damaging checks on other players. I am certain that Kaleta is targeted by the officials and that does reduce his effectiveness, but that is not Kaleta’s fault that is the NHL’s fault.

    • John

      He definitely is targeted. Not understanding all this negativity towards Kaleta. Again Ott isn’t the savior for everything and people think he is. The minute he plays against us they’ll want him back.

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  • im4theLeafs

    Kaleta is not even a good thug! Just a PITA and a distraction even to the team he plays for.

  • Dano

    The Case for Kaleta ( Why people on twitter really are twits ;) ) :

    Hes a team player. Its not about him. When Drury was left bleeding on the ice, Whom went out message sending and making things right? Mair, Peters and.. who?

    Kaleta makes your opposition keep their heads up. Instead of the opposing team having the chance to make their perfect game play up to their expectations, a freight train is in their way and just might put them on their asses. Thus, they ( opposition ) arent always on ‘ their game ‘.

    ‘ People on twitter ‘.. Their asses werent in the nose bleeds at the Aud. Theres people on twitter babbeling about Miley Cyrus.. Twitter folks shouldnt be taken in any serious manor. They are a soap opera with little to no credibility. ‘ new aged ‘ fans whom probably dont know whom Lord Stanley was, only that he gave a ‘ trophy ‘ to the NHL ( *He* actually didnt, the NHL didnt even exist while he was alive. He died before 1917. ).

    I see comments about Scott as well..

    What I would say to all those out there that are tired of Kaleta : Try out for the team. Instead of crying on twitter, lace them up and get out there. Take off the skinny jeans, the heels/uggs, get some dirt under your nails and play the game. The first time the other team starts running you and your team mates your going to cry for Patty to join your side.

    If the idiots on twitter dont like what they are seeing, yet continually finance ( by buying tickets/merchandise ) it.. how can they be taken seriously?

    Theres a very huge division in what a ‘ fan ‘ is these days. :D