Dec 23, 2013; Buffalo, NY, USA; Buffalo Sabres goalie Ryan Miller (30) in net during the first period against the Phoenix Coyotes at First Niagara Center. Mandatory Credit: Kevin Hoffman-USA TODAY Sports

Rumor: Buffalo Sabres Want 2 Picks And A Prospect For Ryan Miller


The clock continues to tick down towards the day when the Buffalo Sabres will need to make a final decision on goaltender Ryan Miller. I’m sure it hasn’t been an easy start to Tim Murray’s time in Buffalo having to decide on the future of their former franchise goaltender, but it appears the sun is setting on Ryan Miller in blue and gold.

A report from WGR 550 and our very own too many men on the site surfaced today with what the Buffalo Sabres are asking for the netminder. The rumoured asking price is 2 first round draft picks and a prospect in exchange for Mr. Miller. Personally I think if they can land one first round pick and a prospect they do the deal.

Obviously Tim Murray was brought in to change the tide in Buffalo and help continue the rebuild, landing 2 first round picks and a

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prospect would be perfect for the rebuild. However, with the current goaltending market where Miller isn’t in demand, the price tag they’re asking may be a little high. Especially for a goaltender who is set to hit free agency at the end of this season and would be nothing more than a rental at this point in time.

Is Miller a good goaltender? Yes. Is he one of the top 5 goaltenders in the game right now? No. Miller is good, there is no arguing that, heck he may even be great. However, few teams are looking for a starting goaltender with a cap hit of Miller’s. Sure most teams would love to add a 2x Olympian, Silver Medalists and a Vezina winner, but this is a horrible time to be shopping that kind of netminder.

Hearing Brian Burke’s comments about the job Miller has done with the Sabres this season shows how people in the hockey world admire Miller for continue to play lights out behind the worst team in the league. A lot of hockey executives seem to respect Miller and hopefully that will work in Murray’s favour.

The Buffalo Sabres have given Miller every chance to re-sign with the team and will likely give him one more chance post-Olympics, but the price tag associated with Miller seems like Murray is ready to turn the page.

Whether you like the asking price for Miller, or think it’s a tad too much, Murray is taking the right approach before the trade deadline. You don’t want to show other team’s that you’re desperate to get something for your goaltender, you have to start high and show it will take a lot to get him. You can bet your bottom dollar there will be team’s calling for Ryan Miller, by starting with a high asking price Murray will be able to control the negotiations and ensure that he wins the trade. Darcy Regier was a magician at flogging trades, hopefully Murray has the same kind of trade power.

Instead of 2 firsts and a prospect the Buffalo Sabres are probably looking more at something along the lines of 1 first, a prospect and either a roster player with a significant cap hit or the Sabres will need to retain some of their goaltenders’ cap hit. What do you think of the asking price for Ryan Miller?

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  • David Clark

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again now… Miller and Grigorenko to Detroit for Howard, Mantha and a 1st round pick (preferably in 2015). Personally, I’d try to get them to add another draft pick or include Nyquist for Adam because Miller isn’t going to leave Detroit once he gets there.

    • Caitlin Campbell

      haha I would certainly take that deal! Dump Enroth somewhere else and bring Hackett up to play behind Howard

      • JHizzle75

        I would be hesitant to get rid of Enroth until we know what Hacket can do.

        • Caitlin Campbell

          well that would be if we Howard… because Hackett would just be a back-up for awhile

          • Jes

            Howard is bad CC. No idea how he made the Olympics

          • Caitlin Campbell

            really haven’t seen enough of him to make an opinion for myself :p

          • lee Munn

            I Agree with Jes, CC. Howard had good numbers on a great team.. and as the team is not doing as great as they once were, his back-ups are much better than he has.. I would rather have a few drafts or Forward prospects.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            The only thing with goaltenders is that they’re tricky creatures they usually don’t hit prime till 30ish for most of them- not all but most. They have rocky years. Not saying I disagree just saying he is still young

      • wolfdoctor

        I think Enroth is better than Hackett, from what I’ve seen. However, I think the real future is Ullmark. I’m not sure, but I think he’s stuck in Sweden for another 2 years. Does anybody know about Ullmark’s status?

        • lee Munn

          He has 1 more full year with MODO (’14/’15) (but we have to sign him this year or he is free agent for anyone… I do Agree with you I believe in 3 years it will be Ulmark & Makorov fighting for #1 like Miller & Biron did 10 years ago!

          • wolfdoctor

            I wonder why we haven’t signed him yet. I’d hate to lose him. Hopefully Sabres management is paying attention and doesn’t drop the ball.

          • lee Munn

            We have ’til June 1st & I am sure they will give a better package + signing bonus than Makorov’s. Prob a 3 year deal starting on 2015/16 season like when Armia signed while still having contract with Asset.

          • wolfdoctor

            I hope so.

          • lee Munn

            Me too. We have to sign Ulmark / Kea / Neilson & Austin of players that haven’t signed yet. Fifth to sign is Adams, but I would assume they with let him go.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            I’m an Adam fan but it might be time for him to find a new home- too many other players the Sabres need to resign in the offseason

          • lee Munn

            Well for Adam he is a “RFA” we have to re-sign, compared to the 5 unsigned that have to be signed by June1
            For the signed ‘UFA’ contracts that are up, the order we will do is
            (Foligno & Ennis-unless traded) is the obvious..
            McNabb / Hackett / Adam / McBain / Ruhwedel

            Prob letting 5 go unsigned
            Knapp / McKenzie / Crawford / Parker & Szydowski
            …. we may keep Knapp seeing that we don’t have to worry on signing Peterson for 4 years

            Of all our UFA’s Moulson / Miller & Ott are the only 3 that really mean anything on signing or trading

          • Caitlin Campbell

            ah good point on Adam forgot the RFA true true

        • Caitlin Campbell

          We have both Ullmark and Makorov who are both highly touted, can’t wait to see both of them between the pipes

      • Jes

        Enroth’s better then Hackett and Howard. Why would u dump Enroth? Makes absolutely 0 sense!!

        • Caitlin Campbell

          I personally don’t think Enroth is the future in Buffalo that’s why. We have yet to see what Hackett has and we have Makorov waiting in the wings, if we bring in Howard- unlikely- but if, we could get rid of Enroth

          • Ben Chalker

            Send Enroth to Winnipeg for Andrew Ladd and swap later round picks to balance.

          • Caitlin Campbell

            I’d be game… don’t know what his market value would be though

    • wolfdoctor

      That would be a fair trade David. I wonder what is really happening behind the scenes.

    • anthony king

      Detroit would never do this. Your homer is showing.

    • Dano

      I thought about what you said and sort-of ‘ did the math ‘. You had an excellent point in:

      “Miller isn’t going to leave Detroit once he gets there.”

      Theres something about playing for your home town team. In this instance, Detroit could be a good fit for Miller.

      Detroit is an aging group, not really ‘ rebuilding ‘. They have a solid club that makes the playoffs.

      The real question is ” Will Millers Wife put him in the doghouse and -cut him off- if he doesnt sign closer to HER home? “.

      I’ve been to Detroit recently. I was brave enough to go south of 8 mile road. The Place is nothing to brag about. City is bankrupt, once nice neighborhoods are now empty houses that are vandalized. Too many people out of work..

    • davidmuscalo

      Even I could live with a trade like that, but it won’t happen.

  • Dano

    Take a first and a prospect and run to the bank. After seeing St. Louis getting absolutely drubbed last night by the Devils.. They could Use Miller between the pipes. BOTH of their goaltenders ( Halak/Elliott ) are UFA’s at the end of the season..

    The Market for Miller is small right now. It will open up in a week or so.

    • Caitlin Campbell

      I think St. Louis will be the biggest players in the Miller hunt for sure! WOuldn’t mind seeing him out there.

      • Dano

        I believe if Miller had the stingy defense of St. Louis in front of him, he would be below a 2.00 goals against.

        • Caitlin Campbell

          Oh I agree, with better defence this guy would be near the top of stats

      • Jes

        I thought you said Washington was the place you thought he was going?

        • Guest

          hmmm?

          • Jes

            Maybe I read it wrong.

        • Caitlin Campbell

          Washington or St. Louis are my two guesses but just pure guess. Both have reportedly shown interest in Miller

        • [email protected]

          Why does it always seem you are always looking for CC to make a mistake or find a reason to argue with her??

          • Jes

            How am I trying to argue with her? Just asking I thought she said Washington is her favorite place for Miller to land. How’s that picking a fight? She had a whole write up about it as well. You should seriously read the post efore you start accusing people of what u may think is going on.

          • [email protected]

            Just seems that way is all, I apologize for my accusatory statement.

  • james1968

    Call the Washington Capitals. Take Neuvirth (not a bad goalie and could compete with Enroth), prospect Andre Burakovsky LW ot the Erie Otters (GP 34 G24 A29 PTS53), and a 1st round pick 2015 for Miller (maybe throw in Grigorenko if they’ve really given up on him).

    • Jes

      Neuvrith is horrible man.

      • james1968

        Horrible no, average yes. He’s had some bad luck with injuries that have kept him from really competing for the top spot. It would clear some cap space for the Capitals, provide some competition for Enroth, and next year you can move him. It’s the pick and the prospect I would really want. Caps may very well find themselves rebuilding next year and that pick could be a relatively high one.

    • Caitlin Campbell

      I know the Caps are interested in Miller, if they want to do a Neurvirt+ first round pick/prospect switch for Miller that could work.

  • lee Munn

    I agree with you CC 1 draft & Prosp… being different than Pomminville who had one full year left. . The ONLY way I see a team paying that much, is if they can talk with Miller with an opportunity to sign him with long term, PLUS if its a team like St L you would be getting (#25-28 overall) with there 1st rd…… compared to lets say NYI offering their 1st (#3-8 overall)
    …for that reason I would love Islanders to pick than we have their next 2 1st’s Guaranteed & a 2nd (Doubt that one will happen-but you never know).

    • Caitlin Campbell

      yup, with the potential of Miller leaving in a few months no team is going to be eager to give the Sabres too much. I’d also love it if we got the Islanders pick for next season

  • Bruce

    Two first round draft picks and a prospect for Ryan Miller!!! I thought Buffalo got rid of Darcy Regier?

    • Caitlin Campbell

      hahah I guess not

  • Jes

    Most of miller’s salary will be paid off by trade deadline. So I honestly doubt a big contracts coming back. I’m sure Pegula will authorize picking up most of Miller’s salary for the trade to work out for the best for the Sabres

    • Caitlin Campbell

      Sabres have the cap room so yes picking up some of Milles $$ shouldn’t be a big issue in need be

  • Jes

    1st rounder + 2nd rounder in next years draft plus a prospect like Rattie.

    • Ben Chalker

      Or Schwartz.

      • Jes

        From St. Louis I’d want Jaskin, Rattie or Allen and from Washington I’d want Kuznetsov

        • Ben Chalker

          Good luck getting Kuznetsov, He’s only just now committed to playing over here, and I’m pretty sure WSH are going to want to give him a shot.
          I’d rather see Miller go to St-Louis. They are going to be frightening to play against if he does…
          I don’t see Washington going terribly deep. once they run into the Pens or the Bruins, that’s pretty much it I think.

        • Mike Lach

          Jaskin looked real good in Moncton when I watched him. Pure goal scorer and great PP threat. Add 2 1st rd picks and it’s a great deal for Miller. Also allows Murray to pick ekblad without ignoring the offensive holes in our team.

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  • Ben Chalker

    How much of the recent 7-1 loss to the Devils is on the St-Louis goalies?
    Because that’s the kind of thing that makes people start thinking upgrades…

    • Caitlin Campbell

      The rumour on twitter was the Blues are now going hard after Miller

      • Ben Chalker

        niiiiiice

        • Caitlin Campbell

          works out well for Murray’s intentions for Miller lol

  • Thomas Eric

    CC miller is certainly top 5 in the game look at his states he is averaging 35 shots a game and still has a great save and goals against put him on a good team and he’ll win the cup

    • Caitlin Campbell

      I agree that he’ll be able to compete for a cup on a better team, but if I said he’s top 5 my head would be on a platter in this comment section Thomas

      • Dano

        I’ll say it then. *I* believe Miller is a top-5 goaltender.. That is when a team that has something resembling a defense is working with him.

        Night in and Night out the video clips show Miller making saves 2/3rds of Goalies out there have their jaws drop watching! Millers ability isnt in question.. Its his ‘ head ‘ that has issues. Recently hes shown up, solid, more often then not.

        The Guy started the season on a team that resembled ‘ romper room ‘. A Bunch of rookies/kids with little to no experience. Hes now on a team with Weber, Tallinder, and Ehrhoff as some of the regulars to help him out..

        • Caitlin Campbell

          Since when do you believe Miller is top 5? Weren’t you one of the folks who said I was giving him far too much credit?

          • Dano

            At the time you were giving him fart too much credit. ;)

            Until this last month, Miller didnt really impress me. Recently, hes found his game ala 06-07 team.

  • davidmuscalo

    I strongly disagree! There is no other goal tender in the world that I would rather have on my team than Miller. Not only is he in the top five – he is numero uno as far as I am concerned. As for trading him for picks, that is not only and insult, it is just plain foolish. Without Miller, we don’t have a credible goalie! Enroth is an adequate backup at best and there is no one in the pipeline of any merit. If management is going to trade Miller, they need to get a decent goalie and a top line forward. Anything less would be an insult to Miller and would send a message us fans that management could care less about putting a competitive team on the ice. Without a NHL-quality goalie and a core of experienced forwards and defensemen, this team is going nowhere fast. As far a rebuilding through the draft, we are more likely to follow Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg and the Islanders into the basement of the league than Pittsburgh or Boston to the top of league.

    That said, I think Miller wants out. He has said that he needs more than talk to sign with Buffalo. I don’t blame him for wanting to leave an organization led by fools. I do hope he signs with a team contends for the Cup. He has wasted his talent by signing with a team that talks a good game, but can’t produce on the ice. Apparently, there has been no change in strategy since Regier was fired. Murray appears to be cut from the same flawed cloth. The future of this team looks dimmer and dimmer with the passing of each day.

    • Dano

      “As for trading him for picks, that is not only and insult, it is just plain foolish.”

      I can ask 50,000$ for the Car sitting in my barn under its cover. If in the market theres no high payers, it will sit and possible depreciate. The same is happening for Miller and he knows it.

      Theres only so much a team might be willing to give. If the best package you have is a pick OR a prospect, you can take one of those or let him walk in July for nothing.

      “If management is going to trade Miller, they need to get a decent goalie and a top line forward.”

      Teams looking for a 6+million dollar goalie for the playoffs are going to keep those assets for their playoff run. They arent going to displace 2 parts for one in return. Prospects and picks are all thats really available. Theres also a factor of what teams Miller will accept a trade to.

      • davidmuscalo

        I’d rather see him walk than be saddled with another worthless pick or “prospect”.

        • Dano

          There might be some logic behind what your saying. There is a limit on the amount of contracts NHL clubs are allowed to have.